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Author Topic: Science fiction and geek levels  (Read 5520 times)

Jolly S

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Science fiction and geek levels
« on: May 27, 2010, 10:04:23 AM »
Hello fellow fandom

Was thinking, is science fiction still considered geeky these days, or does it have a wider acceptance by society at large?

What's our geek level now???

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Re: Science fiction and geek levels
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2010, 12:51:04 PM »
Hello Jolly

SF is only considered less geeky when there's an SF box office success on the screens. :-)

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Re: Science fiction and geek levels
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2010, 01:10:26 PM »
I have to agree with that. Though I think there are a lot more science fiction series being made and broadcast on major channels at primetime (looking forward to the Flashforward season finale tonight in particular, but also things like Heroes). There also seem to be a lot of remakes of older scifi (V, Battlestar Galactica, Day of the Triffids, the Day the Earth Stood Still). So I guess that following on from Geoff's comment it must be less geeky because there are more successful scifi shows and movies being made.

I might just be trying to convince myself there though :-)

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Re: Science fiction and geek levels
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2010, 01:27:59 PM »
Hello Vinx

A really successful SF show makes billions. Look at Trek and XFiles. Its also lightning in a bottle so many channels try their luck on the off-chance.

The re-makes are largely becasue the channels/studios own the copyright and hope the name is enough to draw new people for an update. Shame that they aren't very successful a lot of the time. They should be encouraging new shows.

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Re: Science fiction and geek levels
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2010, 03:23:41 AM »
Flashforward - how can something so great be axed after just one season?  Oh wait...because it's not rubbish reality tv!

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Re: Science fiction and geek levels
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2010, 07:15:35 AM »
I think there are so many remakes these days because it's cheaper and less risky, studios don't want to sink money into something that might not make them enough millions...which is really sad.

The day someone tries to remake Blade Runner is the day I fly to (probably America) and start punching studio execs in the face!!

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Re: Science fiction and geek levels
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2010, 01:35:10 PM »
Hello Alizarin

The success rate of re-makes isn't particularly good anyway.

If anything, the successful shows are the ones least expected. Buffy and X-Files were never thought to take off.

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Re: Science fiction and geek levels
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2010, 12:56:47 PM »
Hello Alizarin

The success rate of re-makes isn't particularly good anyway.

If anything, the successful shows are the ones least expected. Buffy and X-Files were never thought to take off.

Geoff

Well, that's true. I think I'm just annoyed that things like Farscape and Odyssey 5 were left unfinished   ;)

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Re: Science fiction and geek levels
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2010, 01:42:08 PM »
Hello Alizarin

I thought Farscape finished with The Peacekeeper Wars.

The American production companies and/or channels are getting into the habit of wanting instant successes and not letting their shows develop.

Mind you, they have a history of such failures. I mean, that Star Trekky thing back in the 60s only lasted three seasons.

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Re: Science fiction and geek levels
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2010, 02:37:48 AM »
Well, Farscape was cancelled by Sci-Fi without an ending, it was only finished because Brian Henson managed to get the rights and secure financial backing to finish it off.


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The American production companies and/or channels are getting into the habit of wanting instant successes and not letting their shows develop.

That's what I mean!

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Re: Science fiction and geek levels
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2010, 05:33:19 AM »
Hello Alizarin

Re: Farscape. But at least Henson got it done.

The American ideal outside of mid-serson replacements is to have seasons of at least 26 episodes at a time hence the investment is so much bigger. If they were sensible and allocated to 13 episodes first and see if there was interest it would be more effective and ensure more effort was put into 13 rather than scattershot and see which appeals to the viewer the most.

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Re: Science fiction and geek levels
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2010, 04:27:04 AM »
Maybe it's just because they're American...EVERYTHING has got to be BIGGER!!

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Re: Science fiction and geek levels
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2010, 12:26:35 PM »
Bigger ideas often means bigger mistakes.

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Re: Science fiction and geek levels
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2011, 01:16:12 PM »
I should point out that some American shows did start off with 13 episodes and became successful, chief amongst those was a certain slayer.

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Re: Science fiction and geek levels
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2011, 01:16:12 PM »